In this weeks episode of The Dawson's Creek Rewatch, Cory and Tom are on a train ride to fun town as they discuss of season 3 episodes 10 & 11, "First Encounters of the Close Kind" and "Barefoot at Capefest."
First Encounters of the Close Kind:
Written by: Leslie Ray
Directed by: Greg Prange
Original airdate: December 15, 1999
Synopsis:
The weekend finds Dawson, Joey, Andie, and Jack headed to Cambridge for the weekend. Dawson enters his Witch Island documentary into a film festival and doesn't get the positive reaction he hoped for but does end up meeting a girl named Nikki who offers him some advice which he doesn't take very well at first. Later he learns that she too has a film entered and though he liked her entry, gives her some very neutral sounding comments regarding it, until later at the awards ceremony she is snubbed in favor of a lesser quality movie. Dawson goes to Nikki and compliments her highly on her film saying that her film reminded him of why he wanted to go into film in the first place, saying that it inspired him and she should have won, cementing their new friendship.
Joey meanwhile meets up with a student named AJ who is to be her roommate and guide in introducing her to a sample of college life but AJ turns out to be a boy and not a girl as she had thought. They get off on the wrong foot which continues when she sits in on an English class that AJ runs as teaching assistant and gets bashed on for liking Little Women as her favorite classic book. AJ apologizes later for everyone getting so harsh and makes up for it by showing her Louisa May Alcott's personal copy of the book and the two begin hanging out more and enjoying their time together.
Andie tries to no avail to get in an early interview with the dean but does manage to spend time with his secretary who gives her some much needed advice about not feeling bad for having successfully dealt with her brother's death while her own mother could not.
Jack begins to explore the Pink Pages in search of fellow gay men like himself but finds himself too uncomfortable when he visits a gay bar and is immediately hit on by a creeper looking for a little something something. As the weekend ends and he boards the train home, a passenger asks to sit near him and the two talk, as the newcomer reveals he is headed to his parents' home in Capeside before revealing he is gay, and can tell Jack is too.
As Dawson boards the train home, he runs into Nikki who is moving to Capeside for the moment since her mother and father got divorced, a father who turns out to be Principal Green.
Joey bids goodbye to AJ and he asks if he can call her to which Joey accepts and boards the train while Dawson watches.
Back home, Joey and Dawson discussed their weekend and how everything seems to be moving very quickly as college and moving away from Caleside is now looming larger than ever.
Dawson's Trivia:
Nikki was played by Bianca Lawson. She had a few guest appearances on Rogue (a series about a detective who may have contributed to her son’s death), and she was also a supporting character in Witches of East End (women discover they’re witches with magical powers and are in a fight against a mortal enemy). Later, she had short stints on Teen Wolf, The Vampire Diaries, Pretty Little Liars, and Sherman Hemsley’s show Goode Behavior (man has to live with a son who hasn’t spoken to him in years as part of his parole conditions). She also did have a few guest spots on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. She had a short run of episodes in the sitcom Sister Sister, and a bunch of episodes of Saved By The Bell: The New Class. She’s currently a supporting member on the series Queen Sugar (three siblings who inherit a 800 acre sugarcane farm).
Ethan was played by Adam Kaufman. His biggest claim to fame was State of Affairs (a show about a CIA officer picked to be the President’s daily briefer, responsible for targeting America’s most critical threats). He had a short run of episodes in the drama Without A Trace (FBI Missing Persons squad show). He was also in a number of episodes of Taken, a show about three families and their alien abductions over five decades. He also appeared on Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
AJ was played by Robin Dunne. He was in Dead Like Me as Trip Hesberg III. He was the lead in the series Sanctuary, about an organization dedicated to the discovery and protection of unknown species living amongst humans. It ran for eight 20 minute episodes and then was apparently bought by SyFy and retooled into a new version of the series which ran for 59 episodes. He was also a lead in As If, a Friends style show set in LA (2002). He also starred in Cruel Intentions 2, American Psycho 2 (which incidentally had William Shatner in it), and Species 3. He was also the lead in Relationshit, about modern relationships (2014, 5 episodes). He was also in Unhuman Condition, about supernatural beings, werewolves, and the like trying to live normal lives. In 2016, he wrote and directed A.R.C.H.I.E. (Artificial Robotic Canine Hyper Intelligence Experiment) with Michael J. Fox as the voice of the dog. It also had a sequel A.R.C.H.I.E. 2: Mission Impawsible (2018). October Faction was his latest series (supporting actor, series is about monster hunters, family secrets, magic, revenge-bent witch) and Love’s Match, Christmas Crush, New Year’s Kiss, The Christmas Chalet, and His Fatal Fixation were his latest TV movies, some as lead, some as a supporting character.
Marla Gibbs played Mrs. Boyd. She’s best known for playing Florence Johnston on The Jeffersons with Sherman Hemsley. She was also the lead in a successful series called 227 as well. Aside from those two things, she’s done various voice acting roles here and there, such as 101 Dalmatians The Series, bit parts in shows like Touched By An Angel, The Fresh Prince of Bel Air, and ER. She’s had recurring guest roles on The Hugleys, Passions (in the world of power and money, the wealthy and powerful Crane family rule the town of Harmony from their mansion on Raven Hill), and The First Family (African American family in the white house).
Barefoot at Capefest:
Written by: Bonnie Schneider & Hadley Davis
Directed by: Jan Eliasberg
Original airdate: January 12, 2000
Synopsis:
As Dawson has decided to up his game by using the school’s 16mm camera, he finds that Nikki has already checked it out, with a special exemption to keep it longer than the usual borrowing time allowed to students, setting up a rivalry between the two film enthusiasts.
Andie decides to ask the school’s theatre teacher, Mr Broderick, if she can be the play’s assistant director, and after much pushing, he relents. Unfortunately her help is not welcomed as the two begin to audition students, especially when Andie finds out Broderick has asked Pacey to audition for the lead role. Andie freaks out and tells Pacey he has to quit because this play is “her thing” but he refuses, leaving them both frustrated.
Meanwhile Jack bumps into Ethan while shopping and they talk about Capefest, a day long concert this coming weekend.
After Dawson discovers that his mom has moved out a lot of the furniture to her place, he goes to see Nikki to talk with her but is asked to stay for dinner by her father, Principal Green. After dinner, Dawson sees Nikki’s room and the two discuss their film interests and how she has more interests than just that subject. The conversation shifts to divorce and the two bond over their shared situations.
At the next play rehearsal, Broderick instructs Pacey to overact, thinking he is doing a good job, while everyone else can see that the advice was not good. Andie tries to interject with actual good advice but is shot down by Broderick.
Jen and Jack head out to Capefest, with Jen setting up their tent while Jack cruises around the site, looking for Ethan, eventually finding him. They walk around talking about their pasts and when they first realized they knew they were gay, but when they return to Ethan’s picked out area, they find his stuff has been stolen, leaving Jack to ask Jen if he could stay in their tent. She agrees, deciding to leave to give them some alone time and come back the next morning.
Meanwhile, another school play rehearsal has been delayed due to the absence of Mr Broderick. The student actors ask Andie to direct them instead and they begin in earnest, with Andie’s direction encouraging them and actually making a good difference in their performances. Unfortunately Broderick returns and takes credit for the marvelous job they’re all doing. Andie decides to walk out and quit but Pacey pulls her back in, reminding her with a well placed “McPhee,” that they all need her to help them do this right, himself included,
Jen, walking around, and seeing Henry serving hot dogs, approaches him but is shot down by him as he is still hurting from her rejection a month earlier. Later, Jen hears someone singing with a guitar and discovers that it is Henry. She approaches him after and tries again to talk with him, but his heart won’t let him forget how she treated him and he walks away. Jen finds him again later and apologizes to him for how she treated him, and admits she doesn’t know what it is like to lose herself in someone, the way he did in her.
Joey, entering Dawson’s window, sees that he has removed all his posters, his reasoning being that he’s changed so much, and that he doesn’t see the world the same way anymore, that he’s getting closer to finding out who he actually is now after talking with Nikki. Joey becomes enraged that he went to Nikki to talk about his feelings and the two argue with Joey calling him a sellout, and Dawson accusing her of being jealous whenever he mentioned another girl. She leaves upset with Dawson slamming the window down behind her.
Jack and Ethan set up the tent and settled in for the evening, with Ethan feeling tired, whereas Jack was hoping for more. When they awaken, Ethan begins to head off for breakfast and prompts Jack to ask for his number. Jack gets confused about why he would want his number because he didn't seem interested in more last night and Ethan explains that he sees Jack as a friend right now and wants to be in his life. Jack admits that Ethan is the first guy he actually thought of taking this first step with and feels optimistic that there are good guys like him out there.
Joey goes back to Dawson with a poster of John Lennon to remind him of when they were younger and Dawson wanted to be a musician and change the world with music, showing him that Dawson isn’t limited and just all about Spielberg, that she is here for him, and it’s ok if he decides to share his feelings with someone else, and that he’s always walked his own path, but just needs to widen that path little, while continuing to look out for his Yoko.
Dawson's Trivia:
All the auditioners except Lee Norris (Actor #2) have almost no credits. Lee Norris who played Actor #2 was in One Tree Hill as main cast member Marvin Mouth McFadden. He was also in a few episodes of Boy Meets World, and Girl Meets World. He was a lead in the show The Torklesons/Almost Home (working single mother raising 5 kids in Oklahoma which was retooled for season 2 where mother becomes a nanny to three spoiled kids in Seattle and two of her own kids from the previous show are just gone).
Stephen Michael Ayers played Mr. Broderick. He’s been in Better Call Saul for 6 episodes. He also was in a few episodes of Surface, and had various guest spots on shows here and there over the years, but nothing of great note.
Essential Playlist:
Classic Creek Critiques:
Z: After careful consideration I have decided to leave the group and close my web site. Dawson's Creek has lost its touch. It's not the way it used to be in season
one. Things have changed. Change is not always good. This newsgroup is not the same either. I've seen it improve lately, however (except for the brief appearance of Darth Krystal). My interest in Dawson's Creek was fading and operating the site added to that. Maintaining a site can often become a chore instead of a hobby. Maybe someday in the future, I'll come back and re-open the site. Even if I don't come back preeminently, I still might pop in every so often to see how Dawson's Creek is doing.
Tabin responds: Gosh, we'll miss you. I have to admit that Dawson's Creek has lost its touch, probably the reason why I haven't done much with my page either
(working on a Roswell on though). Hope to see you around Z.
Boss6Sr says: Ok. So tonight's ep reminded me of season 1 just a tad. I liked, no let me correct myself, I loved the opening sequence with Joey going back to her roots so to speak and entering through Dawson's window. It was a great scene showing how two people, no matter what they're past is, can go back to normal and share something so special and small like their movie night together. The ending sequence reminded me how normal the show was also. Having the two central characters end the show in a fashion that was so much like season 1, it gave me a moment to digress and remember how much I like this show. The absence of Jen and Pacey sort of blew me away since they are two of the DC4 but it was nice to have a subplot featuring everone's two favorite neurotic siblings-Jack and Andie. The gay bar thing was a bit much, yet very funny. The symbolic talks that Andie had with the secretary(from 227!) showed just how much Andie hurts-no matter how many terrible things she did in the beginning of the season. As for these 3 new characters that are coming to Capeside(I don't know about AJ though. I didn't get a clue that he was coming to Capeside to begin a relationship with Joey) but it shows that we will be seeing more of the romantic intwining of Dawson and Nikki(what's with the ambiguous girls names??) and Jack and his new beau. I'm not sure it'll last but it's cool to see Kerr Smith in a storyline besides being the sidekick to Pacey or Andie.
Daniel Haab disagrees: I'm suspicious of these new characters (if they're staying).
1. They were brought in through utterly absurd coincidences.
2. They're much too pat for our lost leading men: a filmmaker for Dawson and
a recently broken-up, sensitive gay man for Jack? Please.
3. Bringing in new characters is the surest sign that a show is losing steam. Overall, tonight's ep was pretty worthless.
Jason Voorheen agrees with Daniel: Me Either, I don't like them bringing in new characters again...I hope they dont play too big of a role
Wahldawg: My favorite line was where Jack was hesitating getting on the bus and the bus driver says "Well, are you in or out?"
Dan Tropea with a scoop: According to Reuters the last three episodes of DC will be "planting a character on the last three season-ending episodes of the WB's ``Dawson's Creek." This character will then go onto the new show "Young Americans''. WB is doing a similar thing that Fox did with Beverly Hills 90210 and Melrose Place. This is tentatively an 8 episode series to air this summer.
GayPixie21 responds: read about this too. It smacks of that show Manchester Prep. That sucked so bad it never aired. But it could be cool. and I do think we got the character tonight. Did anyone notice that the guy who sat with Jack said he was from a boarding school? Ding ding I think we have a winner and a story line. This MIGHT mean Jack air time on another show. Rock out.
Joe Flinksy responds: There is NO spinoff. They are going to have a new show (not related to Dawson's Creek) air which will have an actor (I can't remember which one) that will appear on Dawson's Creek for a few episodes. It's a stupid publicity stunt. Look at Roswell. If that boy wasn't on Dawson's Creek, the show wouldn't have had the initial responce that it did. They are just trying to repeat that with a new show.
Darth Krystal is a troll of the worst order and has been dominating the newsgroup the last two weeks. Most are putting her into their “kill file” to block her. I cannot. She constantly posts clickbait subject posts where you think it’s a show discussion but then it’s totally off topic. She also posts on other people’s posts with very inappropriate remarks about the characters losing their virginity to zoo animals, ways for characters to get killed off, makes fun of anyone liking the show as well. She seems to have a few people who follow her as well and go along with her shenanigans.
Gingergem gives info on JCTWINDAD because someone was wondering: First off JCTWINDAD is a girl but don't worry I thought she was a bloke at first too! The connection with the show is she's been an extra on the show a few times plus she knows the cast quite well we all (or most of us anyway) love hearing about what she knows about the cast and when she threatened to leave us a few months ago there were many people who told her to stay. Hope this helps.
Ace Greenhalgh adds: Which included me. She's totally genuine, she really does know what goes on behind the scenes and stuff, I think she lives in Wilmington, or something like that. Correct me if I'm wrong.
But Wackygirli isn’t so sure: I dunno I believe she is fake...
On the filing of the episode, fred1229 offers: The episode was filmed primarily in Richmond, Virginia. They were here for about a week about a month ago. The school scenes were filmed on the campus of the University of Richmond and the train station is the Broad Street Station which is now the Science Museum of Virginia. Also the scene of Jack waiting for and on the bus was filmed in downtown Richmond.
Jesse Osby helping as well: They used the Science Museum of Virginia in downtown Richmond. It used to be one of the main train stations in Richmond. According to my mom, it shut down sometime in the early 60's and then was made into a museum at some point after that. It still has the train tracks and such behind it and apparently the tracks are still tied into the real rail system because that train that they boarded is normally not there - i.e. it was brought in
for the show.
Whitney seeing Daddy McPhee elsewhere: David Dukes (aka Daddy McPhee) had a huge part in tonight's episode. He played Ted, the father of a girl who had secretly given birth to a baby. Just thought I'd bring it up.
TBTang2000 saw it too: He was as much of a bastard as he was on DC, only thinking about the daughter and not the baby
JeffMills has ideas: I think that the show needs to get rid of Jack and Andie. I personally think a large part of the problem is too many storylines and things need to get stripped down to the way it was in season one. Just the four main characters, Dawson, Joey, Pacey and Jen. After they do that, here is what else they should do:
*Instead of writing these asinine soap opera storylines, let's go back to the four main characters and find out more about them. I think we all could
know more about Pacey. Why is it that his family thinks he is such a loser? Let's delve more into his relationships with his parents and find out why he
feels the way he is instead of just showing him as this one dimensional smartass.
*Bring back the old, romantic Dawson who was an idealist. That is something that Dawson has lost. We need to see the guy who loved movies so much and
need to see him making movies again and exploring that dream even further. And bring back the interaction with him and Joey as great friends. Bring
back their movie nights when they used to watch movies and analyze them.
*Jen is a very interesting character, but is portrayed so stereotypically as the blonde slut. No one can argue that Jen has acted quite slutty in the past, but I doubt we can argue that she has a good heart and there is much more to her than that. I think we need to see more of her too and find out just why exactly she is the way she is and see her as a person instead of
another one-dimensional character. *Finally, this is high school. No more "issues" shows. Let's have a show that deals with normal high school kids and go back to the pains of adolescence, the desire and frustration to fit in, first crushes and first heartbreaks, SAT's, driver's licenses and career choices. Return to normalcy.
Tank_Commander responds: Well, you have a good point: the show is not as good as it was in it's first season, but what show ever is? A new show is good because it's just that "New", in it's first season DC was that off-the-wall, fresh show that TV desperately needed, and now it just can't keep up the great momentum that it had in that 1st season. While your "quick-fix" ideas are for the most part true, they can't fix the show now. DC lost a lot of viewers last season, which was apparent here in the NG at the time, too many strange, out of nowhere plot-lines and on-again, off-again relationships literally destroyed it coherency. If they had implemented these fixes that you have proposed at the start of last season, it might have been more successful. The name of the game in TV is ratings and their miserably failed attempt at gaining ratings last season has severely hurt their chances to gain more viewers, instead they are struggling to hold on to the ones that they have left. The only solution to mend the past would be to hop aboard H.G. Wells' "Time Machine" and remove 2/3rds. of last seasons scripts. Since that's not possible, the new production crew is attempting to create a similar ambiance like the one that was felt in the first season and, from what I've seen so far (only the last 4 episodes that aired), I think that they are doing the best possible job they can with what they have to work with. As far as getting rid of Andie and Jack and getting back to just the four main characters, that would only be putting a band-aid on a laceration wound. What I mean is, how long would that be interesting? Maybe another season, then it would get a little asinine and redundant. If you focus on a limited set of characters and over-develop them in the beginning, what you would be faced with in the future would be: nothing. If you learn everything about someone the first day you meet them, then what is left to discover? You have to save things to use in the future. So, in conclusion, what is the best solution for DC's problems? Well, in my opinion, just to sit back, watch, wait, and hope the new people behind DC keep things on the straight steady track, instead of the wild roller-coaster ride they tried last season, and try not to turn it into another "90210"
Pot NudeIn responds: Well, I would agree that there are too many storylines to deal with but I wouldn't wanna get rid of Jack and Andie. Well at least not Jack they screwed up Andie major. The only characters that really interest me now is Jen and Jack and I think it would be a major loss if they got rid of him. I agree with all of your other points but they just can't start fresh. The damage has been done and they have to work around it. I think it would be stupid if they just drop certain storylines and try to pretend they never happened. It looks like they are doing that with the whole Eve thing and I think that makes it worse cause I'm left wondering will Jen ever find out Eve was her sister and a million other questions.
Pavel Nikiforovitch (from a SUPER long review): While Dawson can say it ain't so all he wants, such Dawson/Joey jealousy has never been a one-way street. A year ago, when Joey was with Jack, Dawson was extremely unhappy about it, which did make perfect sense -- after all, it was Joey who had dumped him, not the other way around. This year, not being Joey's lover is Dawson's own choice, yet even a mere possibility of another guy coming into Joey's life scares the hell out of him. When Dawson discovered a condom in his room and suspected Pacey of having sex with Joey, he was absolutely furious. And that look he gave AJ in the end of the
previous episode was anything but pleasant. Undoubtedly, any future suitor (be it AJ, Pacey or anyone else) will cause the same I-don't-want-you-but-no-one-else-can-have-you-either reaction.
In other words, we have come to same inevitable conclusion that has always been obvious anyway: WHEN TWO PEOPLE ARE IN LOVE, THEY CANNOT BE JUST FRIENDS. Being friends means spending time together. Being in love means constant desire to hold, hug and kiss the object of one's affection. How can you possibly spend time with your loved one and suppress all those natural desires? Well, let's suppose that both parties can exercise a lot of self-control and repress their hearts and souls. Then, maybe, such friendship might somehow work -- but only if both ex-lovers remain romantically uninvolved. As soon as an outside romance becomes an issue (or even a threat), nothing can save the ill-fated friendship. If you still love someone, you simply CANNOT accept her/him loving (or even dating) someone else. No logic, no reasoning, no common sense will change your mind, let alone your feelings. You will feel betrayed, and no friendship can survive betrayal. In other words, Dawson/Joey friendship is doomed. They might never understand it, but it's painfully obvious that they have to be either lovers or strangers. That way, they can either achieve romantic happiness together and easily, or get the opportunity to achieve it separately and the hard way. And that unquestionable truth isn't something we just learned yesterday. We have known it for a long time, and this episode only proved it to us once again.
-- How dares Andie berate Pacey for taking a part in the play? Why should her opinion matter to him at all? Oh, I see... she needs this project to get over
him... but it's not like it was Pacey's fault they broke up! And her phrase "so you'd do anything for a C?" was incredibly hypocritical. Isn't she the one who'd do anything for an A? Hell, she stole a test to get a perfect score!
-- Nevertheless, Pacey maintained a positive attitude throughout the rehearsals, and Andie stopped being mean, too. In fact, Pacey/Andie hostility has disappeared altogether. Furthermore, Pacey practically begged Andie not to quit. Hmm... are you all thinking what I am thinking? So far, Pacey and Andie have been safely apart since the breakup, but now... and since friendship doesn't seem to be a possibility (Pacey, unlike Dawson, seems to understand that it won't work)... does it mean the two might... No, that doesn't even seem real... forget it... still, what will happen next? Well, so far nothing is clear. It's not even clear whether Andie will quit the play or stay.
Mary Ann responds about Andie and Pacey: I think Andie isn't over Pacey. Seeing him must not being helping her. Sometimes you just need space and being thrown together time and agian is not quite space... I mean I couldn't even look at my ex for a week. And I managed to avoid him at all cost. And I got to be the dumpee. Not the best place. I got the whole its' not you thing. And I watned to kill him. But I didn't. And I was so confused. Even now that we can be civil and are on our way to rebuilding a friendship I'm still confused. Everytime I act nice to him I think people think I just want him back. And when I'm being mean I feel like people are thinking she's just bitter. And so I'm at this place where I"m not totally sure how to act. And some people handle things differently. She doesn't konw how to act around him. Just my thoughts.
I like the thought of them getting back together and if so, I can't wait to see this episode. But anyway, I am telling you people. There break up was just a milestone! They will return. Together again... happppy and healthy... we just need andie to be totally healthy.... which at times does not seem as though she is. Don't get me wrong I lvoe her. (Sisterly). But she does at times appear to still need some sort of help.
Pavel responds: it's Andie's problem, not Pacey's. Pacey wants to be in the play (and avoid failing the class, too), and he has no obligation to accomodate Andie's needs. It was HER fault they broke up, NOT HIS. If she wants to get over him, let HER quit and find another thing to do. If it was Pacey's fault they broke up, I'd agree with Andie, but it's not the case...
Sorry for being straightforward. Andie can't blame Pacey for the fact she's alone. They will never be an ideal couple they were last season. Pacey will never be able to forget what she did last summer. Besides, if they do get back together, will Pacey stay faithful? We all know he is the one most likely to get tempted by some pretty bimbo. What will stop him from cheating on Andie? He'll always have an excuse:
"but you did it, too". And without mutual fidelity a relationship is worthless (well, at least far from perfect, that's for sure). let's face it, the
Pacey/Andie dream romance is dead. Thus, they both need to move on.
Chris420B reviews the episode: What was with this weeks episode? Am I the only one that hopes the Henry character suffers the same fate as Abby? The guy is rude with Jen because she didn't like him. Somehow they want us to believe Jen is the bad guy because she didn't make herself like him. In the mean time, he whines and cries like she's the biggest bitch in the world. Somehow I get the feeling they were wanting us to feel sorry for the kid, but I was hoping Jen would slap some sense into him. I hope to God when Jen said she made a new friend at the end of the episode that she meant just that.. "a friend." I don't think I could stomach Henry anymore.
Then there's Andie. She has the problem with Pacey being in the play, yet she feels HE should be the one to quit. I take back what I said earlier about not being able to stomach Henry anymore. Get him and Andie hooked up so we can see the self-centered kids go at it.
That leaves Joey who has always been the biggest self-centered b*tch on theshow. They have totally ruined her character, and I don't know about anyone
else, but I could care less if Joey and Dawson ever get back together. That relationship has been so bastardized in seasons 1 & 2 that I don't think it can
be saved. Twice they've gotten together, and twice Joey broke up with Dawson for the stupidest reasons that a writer could come up with. The show is going downhill fast, and I don't think a same sex couple, an
inter-racial couple, or Jen playing babysitter to Henry is going to be enough to save it. Pacey and Joey on the other hand..... that's where the money is. Hook them up for the rest of this season, and some of next season. That could be really interesting.
Pot NudeIn responds: Hmm probably. I like Henry. Although I thought he was rude to her I understand how he felt. She doesn't have to love him back of course, but he felt that she led him on. Maybe if she told him before she asked him to go with her to that homecoming dinner that they were only going as friends it wouldn't have hurt him as bad when she told him she only wanted to be friends. Not only that she told him she wanted to be his friend and then she
doesn't even attempt to be his friend until she runs into him that night. Maybe he thought she only wanted to tlak to him so he could help her with the tent.
And about Andie and Joey, Pat says: Well, I also understand Andie's feelings too. When you wanna get over someone you want to be as far away from them as possible. But I agree it was self-centered of her to ask him to quit. if I was in her situation I would have been the one to quit.
Well, when Joey reacted the way she did I at first thought there she goes being a bitch again. Then I thought about it and I guess I can see her point. She was jealous and hurt that Dawson went to someone that is practically a total stranger and talked about his parents divorce, yet he talk about it to his best friend in the whole wide world.
GMunroe responds: I think that in matters of the heart, rudeness is not really an issue. She hurt him, he wanted to hurt her back. It may be wrong, but I think it is natural. The guy is heartbroken. And he is faced with the woman who broke his heart trying to be all pal-y with him like his feelings for her were never more than just friends. Personally, I can understand his reaction, and I almost think she deserved his response. She was calous and hypocritical. Granted, she was honest, and you have to give her that. But once she sees some things that are inside him (i.e. his vegitarianism, the fact that he is a musician) she all the sudden thinks he is a worth her time? I don't know. To me, that seems shallow.
She should have been willing to see past his age to start with. I think that Henry's anger will fizzle, but I also feel like he had a right to feel that way. Perhaps he was a little gruff, but I can't blame him. And perhaps Jen was too quick to judge him and send him packing in the first place. We'll see....
Chris420B responds to GMunroe: She didn't want a relationship, he didn't want to be friends first and see where it may take them. The whole storyline makes me feel like they want us to think Jen is some horrible person for not wanting to go out with the guy. But I feel she has every right.
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