In this episode of The Rewatch Podcast, Cory and Nathan party like it's 1999 as they discuss "End of Days."
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There are several ads in the background in different scenes that read "NY2K are you ready?". Y2K was shorthand for "Year 2000" and there was a widespread fear that computer operating systems would crash because only the last two digits of the year were used to indicate dates, and it was feared computers would read the "00" as 1900 causing mayhem. There were even email suggestions going around that in the year 1999 people should change the year of their VCR's to 1976 because the days of the week (starting March 1) would be the same for both years. The fear of a Y2K meltdown was exaggerated, as timely programming fixes were able to prevent a major catastrophe.
Directors Sam Raimi and Guillermo del Toro were offered End of Days, but turned it down due to other projects. Marcus Nispel was going to direct the film, but he left because of budget and script problems and was replaced by Peter Hyams.
Marcus Nispel quit the project not because of creative differences but because of embarrassment when a 64-page manifesto of his on-set demands was leaked to the press.
The role of Jericho Cane was written for Tom Cruise, but he chose to work on Magnolia and Arnold Schwarzenegger was then cast. Liv Tyler was the first choice for the role of Christine York, but she declined over contractual issues. Kate Winslet was then set to play the character, but she dropped out and Robin Tunney replaced her.
Arnold Schwarzenegger's first film since Batman & Robin (1997). The reason for the gap was because of his heart surgery after playing Mr Freeze; the studios were anxious about whether or not they could insure him, and despite attempts to convince them he was in perfect health, he couldn't get any work until End of Days (1999). Even then, he was amazed when insurance people and executives from Universal came to the set just to watch him, to see if he was still up to the action scenes. They asked Schwarzenegger if he enjoyed this kind of punishment, but he said he was used to it. After the first week of shooting, the insurance guys backed off and not long after, the film offers started rolling in again.
According to Hyams, “Jim Cameron was the kind of godfather of me doing that film, because of his relationship with Schwarzenegger. He told me I was doing it! ... End Of Days was going to be Marcus Nispel, but it wasn't working somehow, but they had Arnold and a start date, and Jim came to me and told me I had to do it. This was the first picture Arnold had made for a couple of years. I think he had a heart thing. So this was Arnold coming back. And he wanted to try to make something good, and to take some chances. I applauded that. And we had very, very good actors around him, like Gabriel Byrne and Kevin Pollak and Rod Steiger. It was a very enjoyable experience. Half way through shooting I told Arnold I thought he should die in this movie. Of course Universal blanched at the idea, so I shot the ending both ways, and everybody agreed that the dying ending was the better one.”
An alternate ending had Jericho die, and Christine tearfully embraces his body and thanks him for saving her life. Suddenly, God removes the sword from Jericho's body and heals his wounds, bringing him back to life. Christine is surprised and glad Jericho is back, and they embrace before leaving the church together.
Years later, Miriam Margolyes revealed on a talk show she did not enjoy her first and only working experience with Arnold, citing the odd reason that in their scene together "He farted in my face!"
Gabriel Byrne plays both good and evil in the same year, Satan in this film and a Catholic priest in Stigmata (1999).
One of three movies revolving on Satanic appearances to get a release in 1999 (also interpreted as 666 with the numbers put upside down), with the other films being The Ninth Gate (1999) and Stigmata (1999).
Udo Kier claimed in an interview that he was considered for the role of Satan in the film but the producers didn't want the hero and villain to both have German/Austrian accents, and he was eventually cast in a secondary role.
End of Days was the last movie to be pressed in the laserdisc format in the United States.
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In this episode of The Rewatch Podcast, Cory and Nathan are on the hunt for the perfect Christmas as they discuss "Jingle All the Way."
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The film draws inspiration from the high demand for Christmas toys such as the Cabbage Patch Kids and Mighty Morphin Power Rangers in the late 1980s and early 1990s, which often led to intense searching and occasional violence among shoppers over finding the toys. Randy Kornfield wrote the film's original screenplay after witnessing his in-laws go to a Santa Monica toy store at dawn in order to get his son a Power Ranger.
Arnold Schwarzenegger was quickly cast. He became available in February 1996 after Fox's remake of Planet of the Apes was held up again. Schwarzenegger was paid a reported $20 million for the role. He enjoyed the film, having experienced last-minute Christmas shopping himself, and was attracted to playing an "ordinary" character in a family film.
Columbus initially wanted Joe Pesci to play Myron. Comedian Sinbad was chosen instead, partly due to his similar height and size to Schwarzenegger. Sinbad was suggested for the part by Schwarzenegger's agent, but the producers felt he was unsuited to the role of a villain as it could harm his clean, family-oriented comedy act and reputation, although Sinbad felt the character would generate the audience's sympathy rather than hate.
Danny Woodburn plays Santa's Elf in this film. Woodburn also played an elf on an episode of Seinfeld (1989), as well as a two-part episode of Baywatch (1989).
Tim Allen was considered for the role of Howard Langston.
Verne Troyer has an uncredited role as the shortest Santa that gets punched while on Arnold Schwarzenegger in the warehouse.
On review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, the film holds an approval rating of 15% based on 46 reviews and an average rating of 3.9/10. The site's critical consensus reads, "Arnold Schwarzenegger tries his best, but Jingle All the Way suffers from an uneven tone, shifting wildly from a would-be satire on materialism to an antic, slapstick yuk-fest."
In 1998, Murray Hill Publishing sued 20th Century Fox for $150,000, claiming that the idea for the film was stolen from a screenplay they had purchased from high school teacher Brian Webster entitled Could This Be Christmas? They said the script had 36 similarities with Jingle All the Way, including the plot, dialogue and character names. Murray Hill President Bob Laurel bought the script from Webster in 1993, and sent it to Fox and other studios in 1994 but received no response and claimed the idea was copied by Kornfield, who was Fox's script reader. In 2001, Fox were found guilty of stealing the idea and ordered to pay $19 million ($15 million in damages and $4 million in legal costs) to Murray Hill, with Webster to receive a portion. Laurel died a few months after the verdict, before receiving any of the money. On appeal, the damages figure was lowered to $1.5 million, before the verdict itself was quashed in 2004 after a judge decided the idea was not stolen, as Fox had bought Kornfield's screenplay before he or anybody else at Fox had read Could This Be Christmas?
Over 18 years after the release of the original film, a stand-alone sequel, Jingle All the Way 2, was released straight-to-DVD in December 2014. Directed by Alex Zamm and produced by WWE Studios and 20th Century Fox, the film has a similar plot to the original, but is otherwise not connected and has none of the original cast or characters. The lead roles were instead played by Larry the Cable Guy and Santino Marella.
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In this weeks episode of The Dawson's Creek Rewatch, Cory and Tom study hard and confess harder as they discuss season 2 episodes 3 & 4 "Alternative Lifestyles" and "Tamara's Return."
Alternative Lifestyles:
Written by: Mike White
Directed by: David Semel
Original airdate: October 21, 1998
Synopsis:
As Mitch lays down the new ground rules for Dawson given his and Joey’s new relationship, Joey keeps being the brunt of Bessie’s requests for help in both her personal (the baby) and professional (the icehouse) life.
Andie, forgetting her notes, calls upon Pacey, who true to his nature didn’t take any notes, and suggests just telling their teacher “pass” if asked a question. An assignment is assigned to all the students where they are to prepare a family budget with Dawson and Jen being paired up, and similarly Andie and Pacey.
Jen is at first reluctant to try and seduce Dawson, but Abby manages to get her over that hurdle easily while things come to a head between Bessie and Joey, and Joey heads off to a meet with a local artist/interior designer named Laura Weston who has offered her some help with her project.
When Gail returns home from work via a ride form a co worker, Mitch finds he feels he cannot trust her and the two agree to try the idea of an open relationship to restore their trust as they both head off on their own for the evening.
Dawson and Jen begin their project with Jen eventually putting her head on Dawson’s shoulder, making him a bit uncomfortable as he heads out to go home.
Meanwhile Andie and Pacey are working on their project trying to find affordable apartments within their budget but Pacey’s lack of actual trying gets to her and she insults him, leading him to lay a barrage of truths from his life on her which he ends with yet another dig at Andie’s entitled life, leaving her to storm off.
The next day at Dawson’s, he and Jen continue working on their project with Jen, at Abby’s suggestion, going for broke wearing a slinky dress and makeup, complete with suggestive comments and poses to which Dawson remains uninterested. She even asks to stay the night and he refuses, leaving Jen to kiss him to which Dawson asks her who she is, not recognizing her attitude and new personality.
Back at the Potter home, Bessie and Joey make up with Bessie agreeing she has placed too much responsibility on Joey and the two move forward with new boundaries in place and their relationship restored.
At school, the students hand in their assignments with Andie confessing she only has half of their assignment when Pacey rushes in with their entire assignment complete which he finished to make up for their argument. As the two walk out together after school, discussing the assignment, a woman sitting in a convertible watches the two of them, taking off her sunglasses to reveal Pacey’s former teacher, Miss Jacobs.
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Laura Weston was played by Tamara Taylor who we have seen before in Serenity as the Teacher at the beginning of the film. Before that she was in Lost as Michael’s wife, Susan. Her first big reoccurring role was as Grace Wilcox in Party of Five for a run of 16 episodes, right before getting this role in Dawson’s Creek. She would go on to play Dr. Ana Syphax in the series City of Angels (Hospital drama), Hidden Hills (sitcom suburbia), and Sex, Love, and Secrets (20somethings in LA). She has made a lot of appearances in shows as a recurring chapter in Altered Carbon, Agents of Shield, and Dating in LA andOther Urban Myths. Her arguably biggest role would be in Bones as Camille Saroyan (a run of 223 episodes). Most recently she heads up October Faction on Netflix (monster hunting, supernatural).
Colin Fickes played Kenny. He has a small handful of roles as minor characters like an analyst in Transformers, a newsboy in The Hudsucker Proxy (Tim Robbins ’94). Most recently he was a supporting character in A Christmas Wish (hallmark, lifetime movie). You can watch him in a 2009 short calledA Softer Touch.
The Landlady was played by Nancy Saunders who was a huge movie star in the 40’s but her career slowed down tremendously by the mid-50’s. She wouldn’t act again until the late 90’s where she started making guest appearances in shows, much like here in Dawson’s Creek.
Tamara's Return:
Written by: Mike White
Directed by: Jesus Travino
Original airdate: October 28, 1998
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As Mitch meets someone to discuss a location for his restaurant, Dawson is surprised to find the person selling the property is his former teacher, Tamara Jacobs.
When Andie drops some video tapes out of her backpack, Pacey and her bond over their love of Dumbo with him inviting her to hang out after school, to which she readily accepts. While things start off happily, they soon run into Tamara which causes Pacey to cut the afternoon short.
Jen, feeling down about herself after her failed seduction, is persuaded to join Abby for a shopping spree, which ends with them flirting with a dock worker while at lunch.
Meanwhile, Dawson has attended an art lecture with Joey being given by Laura, with Joey thoroughly engaged and Dawson much less so, not enjoying abstract art as a whole, leaving a rift between them as he treats her newfound interest as more of a hobby rather than a genuine lifelong passion.
Andie seeks out Dawson’s advice about Pacey and her feelings for him, while Pacey seeks out Tamara at her old house and they have a short discussion as they try to deal with the awkwardness of the moment.
Dawson talks to Mitch about what’s going on with him and Joey, while Pacey stops by to tell his friend that he isn’t over Tamara yet, leaving Dawson to suggest he not act on it, fearing for his reputation and future.
Joey, wanting to go to an art exhibit at the college, is pushed to invite Jack, and the two discover they have a lot in common as Jack is very knowledgeable and fond of the art being shown. Mitch meanwhile meets with Tamara again to look over more of the building and the two have some exchanges about their individual problems they have been having in their lives.
Abby and Jen seek out the dock worker and find him on a ship, but he quickly rebuffs Abby’s blatant come ons, and flirts instead with Jen, inviting her out sometime, an act that is noticed by Abby who gets angry at Jen for stealing someone that she actually likes, leaving their friendship in question.
Pacey finds Tamara and he tells her he is finally over her, but then they both embrace and kiss, before he says they probably should take a pause and the two finally say a proper goodbye.
After another argument between Dawson and Joey, she reveals that she feels like her identity is tied up in just being Dawson’s friend/sidekick/now girlfriend and wishes to know who she is apart from him, but rather than break up right then, she asks to just let the question go unresolved for the moment.
Pacey finds Andie at a restaurant and joins her, hinting that Dawson told him about her feelings and the two do their usual back and forth when they see Tamara getting into her car to leave as Pacey looks off wistfully.
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We’ve seen director Jesus Travino before on The Rewatch, he directed 5 episodes of Seaquest across seasons 2 & 3; The Sincerest Form of Flattery, The Siamese Dream, In The Company of Ice and Profit, Good Soldiers & BrainLock
Vincent was played by Joe Flanigan. Previous to Dawson’s, he was on the show Sisters with Sela Ward and Swoosie Kurtz. He would go on to appear in episodes of Cupid, Profiler, First Monday (James Garner, Joe Mantegna), and Providence. He did a number of guest spots in the early to mid 2000’s before he landed the role of Niel Byrne in General Hospital in 2019, and was just killed off a few months ago.His biggest role was arguably John Sheppard in Stargate Atlantis.
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rrrrrrreeeeeerrrrr Rodney E: Loved it when Jen mentioned the dress she was wearing was borrowed, and Joey answered, "I'll bet". Things are getting catty in Capeside!
Deputy Doug: Didn't they work so well together on that project? Even Dawson seemed
surprised at how compatible they were in that mock marriage. Maybe this
will make Dawson realize that Jen was the best thing that ever happened to
him. *sniff* I think I'm going to cry.
Matador30: ok, to follow from the heading..granted, she knows Jen is still interested in Dawson but I saw a completely new side to Joey tonight...all her insecurities came out on that front porch when she saw Jen in that dress (not the most flattering outfit, IMHO..she looked a bit dumpy)...Now that she's got a
boyfriend, she's acting more stuck up. Poor Jack. If I were that guy, I would turn and run away as fast as I could.
I love the whole Abby/Jen bad girl thing that's going on. It brings a lot more to the show and their lines are great...Also, I am dying for something to happen between Pacey and Andi...I think they're adorable together-kind of opposite attract thing going on.
I like the Joey/Dawson relationship but Pacey is such a scene stealer...I'm more interested in what he's doing now...the first season I could of cared less..I'm glad to see his storyline becoming bigger and bigger as each episode goes by...and these episodes seem to be getting better every week! which can't be said for most t.v. shows..
Spritey: From what I have been hearing the two are going to break up and Joey will be going out with Andie's brother Jack. I would rather have Joey and Pacey, but hey can't get every wish granted, So Dawson and Joey not together will just have to do.
Although I am dying to see Dawson and Joey discuss having sex and watch Dawson blush and fumble.
I don't think they should've gotten together in the first place. Not yet, anyway. I mean, Joey got what she always wanted, and it's only the begining of the second season. Where do we go from there? The only
other thing is to break up. Personally though, I would've rather seen the tension last a little longer.
Rodney E. I don't know if this was aired nationally, but here in the SF Bay Area there was a Long's Drugs commercial several months back about a money-back
guarantee for unsatisfactory makeup. The girl in the ad seemed to be Meredith Monroe (aka "Andie"), can anyone confirm/deny?
Argyle115: The DJ on Z100 here in New Jersey (well, it's a NY station) affectionately calls Meredith 'the Rite Aid girl.' I guess her spot is used for a chain across
the country. --Daria<br>
Spilldink: Swinging Parents? An issue that hasn't been touched often in television. Sure, many married couples have had affairs, but this is totally different. From the fact that Jen rejects God, to the fact that a teacher had an affair with a student who was 15 years old, Kevin and his team are constant iconoclasts riping apart social normsin a whole new way. While some shows (90210, Melrose, every other soap) show "deviant" morality, this show examins life and choices. While other shows shock people by breaking the social laws that were created by television in the 50's, DC is creating a picture of the changing morality of the 90's and the comming century. Now a days many of the kids I know who are starting High School question there sexuality, examine many religions and philosophical viewpoints instead of just blindly accepting their parents' religion, and look at life with an open mind.
JHinLA: I'm glad that I'm not the only one who was confused by the disappearance of the baby's dad... I was wondering why Joey was getting the short end of the stick so much lately...
John Smith: Yea what happened to bodie, has he become like chuck from happy days and just disappeared into the mist of time?
jeev: Short thoughts on new episode:
1) The interaction between dawson and has dad was hilarious.
2) I thought Jen was pretty annoying, double for Abby
3) What happened to Bessie's boyfriend? Did we get any explanation for
his disappearance?
4) Dawson and Joey together are nice, but i'm looking forward to some
more conflict which I guess Jack'll provide.
5) Love Miss Jacobs coming back, I missed her, hope we get some good
action with her and pacey.
6) Wow Meredith Monroe is hot.
Pavel Nikiforovitch: -- Mitch is a cool dad (and it's kinda obvious that he enjoys dealing with his son much better than with his wife). Yes, Dawson might think his
restrictions constitute cruel and unusual punishment, but Mitch is right -- it's his duty as a parent to enforce at least some semblance of discipline. And then, when Dawson asked him "didn't you make out with girls when you were 15 ?"... an average father would have either lied or said something like "yes, I did, but <insert some illogical explanation of why it's completely
different>". Instead of that, Mitch talks about fear of getting caught being part of "doing it". In other words, he doesn't officially encourage Dawson to have sex (no parent would do it), but he does accept the possibility of Dawson doing it without his permission. Basically, he washes his hands, like "do it secretly, and if you get caught, remember -- I didn't give you my permission". A pretty sensible approach.
-- Just one sidenote about Jen's unsuccessful attempt to seduce Dawson: when she kissed him (after she said "I just decided to liven things up a bit"), he didn't seem to mind, and the kiss was more or less passionate. It might notbe a big problem, considering how well he resisted Jen's advances otherwise,
but it would have certainly pissed Joey off, had she happened to walk in at the moment. Speaking of Joey, she trusts Dawson a lot, letting him spend so much time together with Jen (even if it's necessary for a project). Dawson better not betray that trust...
-- Abby is even a bigger bitch than I thought she was ! When she was picking on Kenny (the overweight nerd assigned to be her project partner), I felt extremely pissed (yes, yes, partly because Kenny did kinda remind me of myself in high school -- only I wasn't that overweight) ! He does all the work, and she has the nerve to insult him and act like his mere existence is
killing her ! I wonder why Kenny let her do all this instead of just saying "f**k you, bitch, do it yourself then !" -- well, I guess, it's because you can't say "f**k" on network TV... But at least he openly informed the teacher about her not doing anything. Some might find his behavior uncool, but I totally support him. Oh, man, does Abby suck !
Tabin responds: I think Dawson already did. I mean, in the first season Dawson said that a relationship should have no lies and have complete honesty. So Jen told her about her past. Well, when Abby threw the "Get a room," line, I got the thought that Jen told her what happen and was mad at Dawson. Joey didn't understand and Dawson said neither did he. Is it me, or did he NOT tell Joey that Jen kissed him TWICE. Granted she was drunk in the first kiss, but definitely not the second. Do you think this will cause a problem? I think so.
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Matt English: First of all, the Vincent and Abby speech was one amazing scene. I love what Vincent said about..and to abby. Abby is such a skank. "abby Morgan 555-1042" My God! Also, as if Joey is that good of an artist...just like that! Oh yeah, stop drawing for 9 years and BOOM you're a regular Cezanne. Ok..sure. I am also mad about the Pacey and Tamara thing. I was not predicting that, and I am tremendously disappointed with the show's outcome. Andie was looking especially pretty this episode, and I am so looking forward to their (Paccey and Her) budding romance. It should be a good one. Also.....Jen loooked really classy and pretty this episode. Finally ...she
lost that depressed drunken look. How unbecoming
Skyhi…@mydejanews.com: This is what I think...Joey is
paranoid due to the death of her mother (let's remember this was brought up by that art teacher). This re-opened a closed book in Joey's life, and she
realized that Dawson's all she's got, and if he died, life would not be worth living. By the way, in case some of you didn't know, someone posted something that I hope is true that Bodie is not forgotten and will be back. I kind of hope they get married. Jack, what a loser! The whole time he was with Joey he was shrugging his shoulders, and his hands were in his pockets. Come to think of it, although I like Dawson and Joey, Jack and Joey would make a good couple, have you noticed how much Joey shrugged her shoulders in season 1?
Kenny 20920: Well folks believe me it is that hate for Jen that is going make this show interesting. Would I, as Dawson, pick Jen over Joey?......no way. But to say
that Jen should get over it, come on..a 15 year old who thinks she is in love, shouldn't and won't get over him that fast, and for sure not just cause he has a girlfriend. Joey and Jen never had that great of a friendship, so there are no lines that Jen is steping on. Go for Jen, bitch and scheme all you want.go after your "man".make the show fun! I hope Abby keeps talking to her. That Jen part sure does liven up Joey and Dawson!
Spritey: I don't hate Jen all that much anymore (not yet anyways), but feel more sorry for her. The guy who has been fawning all over her steps out with his best friend and her enemy and her grandfather dies. She is mad at the world and that is what is going to show for awhile. Jen admitted she had no girlfriends and guys only seem to want her for one thing most of the time.
Mark Christensen: I thought for a moment that they would get together at the bar, where they had both gone to "pick someone up." It would have been contrived, and strange -- but at least it would have ended this worthless story line. Look at the outcome of the honesty thread -- they both went out on date night, then they both went home and LIED about it. Apparently pretending they had fun in order to wound each other is more important than restoring the trust and honesty he SEEMS to care so much about. Perhaps he's just more interested in inflicting pain, and getting some action than he's willing to admit. Stupid. Stupid. This story line leads down the Soap Opera road. Which is a road I will not travel for long.
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